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Origination fees taken out of proceeds versus added to the balance

Same fee, same percentage, two different loans. Worked through with the grossing-up error most people make.

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The two structures

A fee deducted from proceeds means you borrow $100,000, receive less, and repay a schedule built on $100,000. A fee added to the balance means you receive $100,000, and repay a schedule built on a larger principal.

Lenders describe both as "a 4% origination fee". They are different transactions with different payments, different totals, different cash and different effective rates, and the one that is better for you depends on which of those four things you are short of.

Worked, on identical inputs

Illustrative only — $100,000, twelve monthly payments, a 15% nominal note rate, and a 4% origination fee.

A: deducted from proceeds.The note is $100,000. The payment is $9,025.83 and you repay $108,309.96. You received $96,000. Your cost is $12,309.96, and the rate that discounts twelve payments of $9,025.83 back to $96,000, annualised by twelve, is 22.9% — an effective annual rate of 25.4%.
B: added to the balance.The note is $104,000. The payment is $9,386.86 and you repay $112,642.32. You received $100,000. Your cost is $12,642.32, and the same calculation against $100,000 gives 22.6%.

Note what happens to the ranking. B costs $332.36 more in total dollars and $4,332.36 more in payments, yet B carries the lower effective rate — because B also handed you $4,000 more cash. Comparing totals without comparing proceeds gets this backwards every time.

The grossing-up error

If you need $100,000 in the bank and the fee is deducted, you do not borrow $104,000. Borrow $104,000 with 4% deducted and you receive $99,840.

The right figure is $100,000 / 0.96 = $104,166.67. The fee is $4,166.67, the payment becomes $9,401.91 and the total is $112,822.92.

The same trap sits inside the fee percentage itself. A 4% fee deducted from $100,000 is $4,000 charged against the $96,000 you kept, which is 4.1667% of your money. Small here. On a ten-point fee it is the difference between 10% and 11.1%, and on a deal where points are deducted and a factor is applied to the gross, it compounds with everything else in the same direction.

Which structure to prefer

If the constraint is cash.Take it added to the balance, or gross up the deduction properly. Arriving $4,000 short of what the project needs is a more expensive mistake than the rate difference.
If the constraint is the payment.Take it deducted, and reduce the loan to match. A smaller note is a smaller payment, and payment is what breaks businesses.
If you may repay early.A fee deducted at funding is gone on day one whatever you do afterwards. A fee added to the balance at least stops accruing interest once you pay the balance down, so the two structures separate a little further on an early payoff. The larger effect runs the other way and catches everyone: prepaying makes a front-loaded fee more expensive under either structure, because the same fee is spread over fewer payments. Worked below.
If the product has a fixed total.Ask whether the fee is inside or outside the factor. A 1.32 factor with three points deducted and a 1.35 factor with none can be the same money, or not, and only the arithmetic says which.

What prepaying does to the fee

Both structures get worse if you repay early, because the same fee is spread over fewer payments. Illustrative only, on the same figures as above — repaying after six of the twelve payments:

A: deducted.Six payments of $9,025.83 plus a payoff balance of $51,862.52 is $106,017.50 paid against $96,000 received. Annualised by twelve, 25.7% — up from 22.9% at full term.
B: added.Six payments of $9,386.86 plus a payoff balance of $53,937.02 is $110,258.20 paid against $100,000 received. Annualised the same way, 25.2% — up from 22.6%.

B separates a little further from A when you prepay, because interest stops running on the part of the fee you have not yet amortised, while a deducted fee is simply gone. But the gap between the structures is a third of a point, and the effect of prepaying is nearly three points. If you expect to refinance or sell inside the term, the argument to have is not about which structure the fee sits in; it is about how large the fee is at all.

The fee you pay twice

Two places it happens, both routine and neither flagged in advance. On a renewal, a fresh origination fee is usually charged on the whole new balance, including the part that is a rolled-over payoff of the old loan — points on money you already paid points on. On a modification — a payment holiday, a re-amortisation, a change of collateral — most agreements permit a fee for processing it, and the day you need one is the day you have least standing to argue about it.

Ask for the fee in dollars at every one of those moments, not as a percentage. A percentage sounds like a rate. The dollars are the price.

Two smaller traps

A fee charged on the commitment rather than the draw.On a facility you take down in stages, ask which amount the fee applies to. A 2% fee on a $250,000 line against which you only ever draw $80,000 is a 6.25% charge on the money you actually used.
A fee deducted and financed at the same time.Some structures take the fee out of the wire and also include it in the balance interest accrues on. That is not structure A or structure B; it is both at once. Ask in writing which figure was wired and which figure the interest is charged on, and check that the two answers are consistent with the payment you were quoted.

The check to run on any offer

  1. Write down the cash you will actually receive.
  2. Write down every payment and its date.
  3. Solve for the rate on those two things, not on the note amount.
  4. Repeat for the other offer, on the same basis.

Two offers quoting the same fee percentage will not usually survive that comparison in the order the term sheets suggested. The calculators take the fee and the deduction method as separate inputs for exactly this reason.

One more thing worth asking in writing: whether the fee is earned at commitment or at funding. A fee earned at commitment survives your decision not to proceed.

Where this applies

Related questions

What does this guide cover?

Same fee, same percentage, two different loans. Worked through with the grossing-up error most people make.

Which funding products does this apply to?

Working Capital, Term Loan, SBA Loan, Equipment Financing. Each has its own page listing the funders in this directory that offer it and what each one publishes about its terms.

Are the figures here quotes?

No. Every worked example is labelled illustrative and exists to show the arithmetic. What a particular lender charges is on that lender's page, where it publishes it at all.

Who writes this?

The Find Me Funders research desk. Some drafting is AI-assisted, and every page that is says so at the top, including whether a person has checked its claims yet.

How do I know a figure here is right?

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Are the examples real deals?

No. Every worked example is labelled illustrative and exists to show the arithmetic. What any particular lender charges is on that lender's page, where it publishes it.

Why do you never say what a typical rate is?

Because we cannot source it. A market average assembled from lenders who do not publish prices is a guess with a decimal point on it. Where a lender publishes a figure, we show that figure and say where it came from.

Is this financial or legal advice?

No. It is general information about how these products work. Outcomes depend on your contract and your state, and a lawyer or accountant licensed where you are is the person to ask about your situation.

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